BRYAN: Your hands are shaking? Plaster casts were made of the tire impressions. November 2020 whatever you say, I want you to know that I will cooperate so you dont have to worry whatever you say well do. Here's the thing,Judith. Los Angeles Letter January 2021 December 2022 This person observed the girls while they were sunbathing from 40-50 feet away. Are you nervous? 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At Lake Berryessa the Zodiac enacted death by rope and knife. Hood/Garcia Murders I guess a good case in point is Ted Cruz. February 2018 My Name Is Letter The location was described as being "approximately 8/10 of a mile from the scene of the victim's vehicle." Cecelia and Bryan dismissed the man as harmless and did not notice as he donned a dark hood featuring the symbol of a white crossed-circle. My analysis is based on logical deductions, and while it may seem like a series of conjectures, is designed to encourage some debate and discussion on the leaps I have taken :)! Rather nice looking. ASSAILANT: ( no reply ) The man-made lake attracted visitors who enjoyed boating, fishing, picnicking and other activities, and the recreation area was also home to the famous "Berryessa Bowl," a music venue which featured many of the most popular bands and performers of the time. Some turn out to be sketches based on other people of course, but the subjectivity is always evident even when sketches have been composed that are based on the actual suspect. Slaight asked the man to provide his location, but the voice only grew more distant as the caller replied, "I'm the one who did it." March 2019 Written on the passenger door in black felt-tip pen was: Victim stated that the suspect stabbed Miss Shepard "much worse than him". 43 miles. Im just curious. Lake Berryessa has easy boat ramps and it is so much fun to enjoy the lake on a hot day. Because Bryan wasn't wearing any glasses, he asked Cecelia to look over and see what was happening. Yes Judith, the possibility of other people wandering about cannot be discounted. Later, Bryan Hartnell would write a transcript of his conversation with the stranger. Sounds of traffic driving by etc). The man pointed a gun and Bryan said, Your hands are shaking, Are you nervous? The man laughed and replied, Yes, I guess so. The man was nervous because he knew what was going to happen next. from a payphone at the corner of Main St. and Clinton St., Napa to confess to the crime. They were in a white Volkswagen Kharmann Ghia. Slaight waited for the man to continue, but the declaration was followed by silence. There was a crossed-circle on the part of the hood that draped down over his chest. The police were able to track visible bootprints from Hartnell's vehicle to the crime scene on a dry hot day. Cookie Notice ASSAILANT: Now I want you both to lay face down so I can tie up your feet. 6, stocky build, ~200 lbs, dark clothes, straight dark hair neatly combed. Hartnell managed to survive the attack. This is also supported by the killer's next crime in San Francisco, which suggests a planned entry and exit. They may have parked at the North Smittle Creek Trailhead parking lot, which is 2.6 miles north of the A&W root beer stand location (Map). He took out a black marker and wrote a message on the passenger door of Bryans white Volkswagen Karmann Ghia. Sadly, Lake Berryessa was the site of a 1969 murder linked to the infamous Bay Area Zodiac Killer (see the location on wikimapia). all I wants your money. November 2015 Officials say approximately 10-20 boats, jet skis, houseboats and the dock . Targeting a couple,being a presumed deliberate act,on account of responsibilities to each other,handicapping their mobility as a single unit. BRYAN: I want to get in contact with you. May 2019 Presidio Heights Murder -DIALOGUE BETWEEN AN UNKNOWN ASSAILANT AND BRYAN HARTNELL ( and Cecelia Shepard ), CECELIA: What do you want? May 2022 B: Now that everything is all said and done, could you show me that your gun is loaded? Napa County Sheriff's deputies Dave Collins and Ray Land were the first law enforcement officers to arrive at the crime scene. It is a lovely oak woodland descending from the road to the lake. lake_berryessa.kml Downloads Poster - Lake Berryessa Fish Advisory Poster (New Graphic Added) Apr 6, 2018 Poster - Lake Berryessa Fish Advisory Poster in Spanish (Espaol) (New Graphic Added) Apr 6, 2018 Report - 2009 OEHHA Fish Advisory Update for Lake Berryessa Mar 13, 2009 Report - 2006 Fish Advisory for Lake Berryessa and Putah Creek Jun . The location was described as being "approximately 8/10 of a mile from the scene of the victim's vehicle." October 2020 The A&W root beer stand mentioned above was at 5100 Knoxville Rd. Once that was done, he proceeded to tie up Cecelia himself. April 2019 Good Citizen Letter A hair cut, or perhaps hair loss, plus the loss or gaining of weight, can all occur over a relatively short space of time. Here are step by step directions to the Lake Berryessa Zodiac attack on Sept 27, 1969. Every time I have gone there, there have been many members of the public wondering about. 2001 Happy New Year Card Had they done so, we may not be speculating on this topic 50 years after the fact. If any, it is extremely superficial. Carol Beth Hilburn The hike was the "difficult"-rated Homestead-Blue Ridge Trail and the lake was Lake Berryessa, located in the Stebbins Cold Canyon Natural Reserve in California's Napa County. Possible Zodiac Letters Citizen Card She also heard his voice Im sure she wouldve said if she had recognized his voice. The killer then hiked 500 yards back up to Knoxville Road, drew the cross-circle symbol on Hartnell's car door with a black felt-tip pen, and wrote beneath it: "Vallejo/12-20-68/7-4-69/Sept 27696:30/by knife". There is nothing to worry about. Telegraph Avenue Incident A: (pointing gun directly at me at point blank range) I told you to get down! THE BEAST OF LAKE BERRYESSA It happened to be the very odd coincidence, not more than, merely, several years ago, that former FBI Agent, Jack Sherwood, who'd initially assisted in the original Zodiac Killer Case, was vacationing with Fred Heltman, a friend who'd once lived near the home of Leonard Lake, but, nowadays, resided near Lake Berryessa. The steet light gave them fairly good visibility Lake Berryessa Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell (survived) Date of attack: September 27, 1969 Time of attack: Approx. Well built, nice looking. The R/Os who interviewed Dr. Rayfield and his son thought it was unlikely that the male suspect could have walked from this area to the crime scene on foot, as there were 4 coves of water between the scene of the crime, and the place where the subject was seen. Cecilia and Bryan had nominated a particularly narrow headland,as a beach spot to settle.Presumably,to feel surrounded by water [?]. Lake Berryessa was popular with college students,since it was a cheap day out,if you had the means of transport. movies and in an article in the Readers Digest they say that thieves really keep their guns loaded? If Zodiac had stalked the 3 girls that day, he isn't going to be driving around in his costume, as he wasn't when he first eyed the girls from the hillside. February 2019 Suddenly he appeared wearing a bizarre, hooded costume that had a white crossed-circle stitched onto the front. It may very well be a better likeness than the PH sketch, as it was daylight hours and the girls saw him for an extended period of time, as opposed to the 3 teenagers who saw Zodiac properly front on for a matter of seconds. Pines Card November 2017 We used to have a good friendship. Tamalpais Valley Attack But the reality of the Lake Berryessa murders permeates the scene beyond simple facts. I need some money to get there. The Celebrity Cypher June 2014 It is possible that he was very confident that his plan would succeed, or, perhaps, by writing "By Knife" on the door, he gave himself purpose. Pleated pants dark blue or black. Hi Richard, 5 fingerprints were lifted. Skip to content. Yes, I considered the Chevy Nova to be a like option at one point. The Evidence: * The Boot Prints and Clothesline. Not necessarily damning but anyone with a person of interest would find a handwritten drawing of Lake Berryessa by their suspect significant. There are enough highly circumstantial suspects on the internet today - Kane, Sullivan, Gaikowski being just three of them - without adding yet another one to create more controversy and confusion. Click image for details. US Topo Map Quadrants . The military had their area, the Italians had North Beach etc, Those sketches are not the original sketches, except for the first one. The girls did not observe the driver leave the vehicle. Hartnell survived eight stab wounds to the back, but Shepard died as a result of her injuries on September 29, 1969. The day of the ''Berryessa'' attack,the weather was overcast,with a not insignificant breeze.It was also the middle of the working week [.a Thursday,I believe.]. Lake Berryessa Theories - The Zodiac Killer -- Unsolved & Unforgotten Lake Berryessa Theories Share 54 posts 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next steve.beaumont.1984 55 101 Old Newbie Aug 06, 2020 #1 Ken Narlow found it strange that Zodiac wore the hood when he attacked Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell. These days, it seems as though the trees that were originally on the island no longer exist. (Hartnell was heavily sedated at the time). CECELIA: Bryan do what he says! May 2017 A fire on a dock at Lake Berryessa destroyed the dock and between 10 to 20 boats, houseboats and jet skis on Friday night. Saw this person from a distance of about 100 yards. Bryan described the costume and the crossed-circle symbol, and the message on the car door also included a crossed-circle. August 2014 A NPD det.told me by phone they are holding some things back. Following the Blue Rock Springs shooting, he was so desparate for attention that he contacted the police from a pay phone in central Vallejo. from the hospital to tell her what happened before she heard it on the news. Lake Berryessa is the largest lake in Napa County, California. After the attack, the killer travelled more than twenty-five miles and called police to report the crime from a payphone. On Nov. 7, 1957, the Monticello Dam was completed. Slaight: "Napa Police department, Officer Slaight. April 2021 This is the site where Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard were stabbed by the Zodiac Killer. Fairly nice looking with a round face. whatever you say, I want you to know that I will cooperate so you dont have to worry whatever you say well do. March 2020 August 2020 Cipher Theories A couple things that dont add up in the PH case sketch and the LB case sketch are the roundness of the faces as one is very round one isnt and the hairline. As an enthusiast of the Zodiac Killer case, I've been contemplating the peculiar Lake Berryessa crime, and I'd like to share thoughts regarding the perpetrator's motivations and actions leading up to the event. Is anyone there?". However, please be aware that not allowing certain cookies may impact your experience of the site. These should be in Napa PD files. I didnt hear you The latitude and longitude coordinates for the site are: To view directions on how to get there, you can use the Google Maps shortcut below: Zodiac IslandKnoxville RdNapaCaliforniaCA 94558United States. For those of you who dislike using measurements and timelines in the Zodiac case, look away now. November 2018 December 2014 It would check thousands of images for matches. October 2012 GPS coordinates. General News Articles Large bullets. The man needed the gun to prevent Bryan and Cecelia from running away if they began to suspect his true intentions. August 2013 Rear window glass was tinted dark. Bryan and Cecilia were bound with clothesline, and, just as they had hoped that the ordeal was about to end in mere inconvenience, the hooded stranger set upon them with a foot-long knife. February 2021 At around 3:30 PM on September 27, 1969, three college girls parked their car in a lot about 2 miles north of the A&W Root beer stand on Knoxville Road at Lake Berryessa. I only used these images, essentially to show the time given for each journey. Place of Interest in Napa, California, United States, Place of Interest in Sonoma, California, United States, Place of Interest in Santa Rosa, California, United States, Crime Location in Vallejo, California, United States, Place of Interest in Vallejo, California, United States, Place of Interest Brooklyn, New York, United States, Crash Site Location Beaufort, South Carolina, United States, Crime Location Los Angeles, California, United States, Crime Location Salt Lake City, Utah, United States. January 2023 It is concerning that there may have been a victim who was burnt to death, perhaps a missing person or a murder that has never been attributed to the Zodiac. Dark. The phone was found, still off the hook, minutes later at the Napa Car Wash on Main Street in Napa by KVON radio reporter Pat Stanley, only a few blocks from the sheriff's office, yet 27 miles (43 km) from the crime scene. November 2014 No doubt there. You can't drive all the way around Berryessa like most lakes. I wonder why someone hasnt thought of this before. They also noticed a man with two young boys in the area shooting BB guns. Given the tasks he had to accomplish in that timeframe, it seems highly improbable that he had to hike far to reach his vehicle. long bread knife, 12 blade, wide, hardwood handle, 2 brass rivets holding handle in place, knifes case possibly made of wood. Are they in my shirt, in the ignition, on the blanket Say! ), (SEE: https://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport26.html), After they were tied up the assailant said "I'm going to have to stab you." For more information, please read our Privacy & Cookie Policy. BRYAN: Listen, I didnt complain when you tied our hands, but this is ridiculous People do not see other people in exactly the same way. So their description was perhaps more reliable, except perhaps for their interpretation of the suspect's age. The girls then walked to the beach at the Lake and were sunbathing in their bikinis. BRYAN: Well, is there any other thing you need? He knew with certainty which car belonged to the victims so he must have seen them arrive- there is what seems a great deal of premeditation- again a sign he may have been after Cecelia- like he was looking for a particular car to show. The latitude and longitude coordinates for the site are: 38.563619, -122.231938 Map. Drawn on letters, the side of one of the victim's cars and on the. Donna Lass The other possibility is he never got the chance to take his Wheel of Doom full circle. Below, you will find the address and the GPS coordinates for this location. 8-10), A police sketch was made from Linda's description of the suspect seen that day (not Linda Lee). Other locations that are relatively close to this place. On many days, especially through the working week, they were deserted, apart from the occasional car that has driven in at lunch time, or just a few fishermen in boats. Shepard lapsed into a coma during transport and never regained consciousness. https://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport5.html. At least the Berryessa face is rounder. On September 27th, 1969, the two university students were relaxing on the island and reminiscing about old times when they heard a rustling sound coming from a nearby tree. He was likely parked on Knoxville Road, and had a pre-planned escape route, likely spent time observing the area before the attack. However, I totally agree with you. A: Yes, I guess so. The hooded stranger moved toward the couple. https://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport33.html, Napa PD police report on Lake Berryessa crime (35 pages). June 2013 148 Character Cipher Shepard was conscious when Collins arrived, providing him with a detailed description of the attacker. Some people swear that he looks exactly like the face in the sketch. Bryan survived to describe the terrifying experience. Lake Berryessa is the largest lake in Napa County, California.This reservoir in the Vaca Mountains was formed following the construction of the Monticello Dam on Putah Creek in the 1950s. On T.V. The man kept stabbing until Bryan feigned death. Large bullets. ( laughs in a very relaxed manner ) Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell (survived), Time of attack: Approx. The entire interaction with Zodiac took approximately 15 minutes, from the time of first observing suspect until he departed. Lake Berryessa in Napa County This lake in Napa County is the largest in the county, the lake provides hydroelectric product ion as well as a variety of recreational pursuits. https://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport1.html, Location: Lake Berryessa, Napa, CA (Google map), Investigated by: Napa County Sheriff's Department, At around 6:30 PM on September 27, 1969, college students Cecelia Shepard and Brian Hartnell were sunbathing and picnicking at Lake Berryessa in Napa county California. He picked out Allen as being there that day. As Judith pointed out, the two suspect sketches may be depicting two totally different people. January 2013 He has been a featured guest on Irelands Sean Moncrieff Show, The Fringe Radio Show, andHouse of Mystery with Alan R. Warren. (Map) NOTE: It is unclear to me exactly where the girls were parked, and where the suspect was seen. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thanks for the Saturday correction,Richard. Daniel Williams Poisoning Muscular. The person seen by the girls I believe saw him in either a 64 to 65 Ford Mustang or Chevy nova. Do you want us to come up with our hands up or down? Many sketches were drawn up regarding the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper. The smaller the sample of eyewitnesses the less reliable it is. June 2018 New Canaan Letters Hair styles can obviously be changed but the hairline would be a lot harder. At around 11:15 p.m., a nother car pulled in beside the couple. (Or, and probably this: Now that all is said and done, was that gun really loaded?) 200/225 lbs. ASSAILANT: Now I want the girl to tie you up. According to Bryan, he and Cecelia were lying on the ground along the shoreline when she noticed a man lingering in the shade of some trees nearby. Bryan Hartnell 20 and Cecelia Ann Shepard 22 both Students were having a relaxing picnic at the shore of Lake Berryessa, 30 miles north of Napa when a man started to approach the young couple. July 2012 You have been right on target with your comments, Lemonboy! Hartnell and Shepard were taken to Queen of the Valley Hospital in Napa by ambulance. The assailant stabbed Hartnell first, then stabbed Shepard. https://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport8.html. People, on the other hand, will use your argument when the sketch looks nothing like their suspect. Im sure any white guy with glasses and receding hairline were thought by people they know to be Zodiac. Accepting the lie, the victims allowed themselves to be tied and subdued. They indicted the car was in excellent Condition.The tires of the car behind the Ghia were unevenly worn and mismatched,etc. They are asking for family members to come forward with DNA and photographs. She died two days later, but Hartnell survived to recount his tale to the press. I have often pondered if oaks had any particular meaning for the Zodiac. The Zodiac Killer has never been caught and is the subject of a recent movie. No clarification of them ever checking the bootprints 0.8 miles north in the police report. But the reason Zodiac was never caught was cause he doesnt look like the PH sketch, he said so himself. age 28, 6 to 6 2. Just saw a recent news report out of Sacramento County showing that they're going to have a conference for people who are family members of missing persons. B: Well, is there any other thing you need? He was holding a pistol and wearing a hooded disguise with a crossed-circle on the front. Hartnell believed the bullets could be .45 caliber but is not certain. For more information, please see our When deciphered, the message began with the words, I like killing people because its so much fun. The writer also referred to collecting slaves for his afterlife. Somewhere along the way he washed blood off his hands- it's why there was no blood on the car. BRYAN: But we dont have any money all I have is 75 cents. Arthur Leigh Allen (. I myself have been to this location many times. Personally, I see no resemblance. In the 2007 movie Zodiac they even used a 65 mustang to recreate the scene with Michael and Darlene. We only have an idea of what his various facial features "might" have looked like. SFPD photographed all people who attended Cecelia Shepards funeral----. It suggested that once he had moved it slightly before 4:30 pm, it remained in that position until he returned later that day- after the attack on Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard with a. I located witnesses at Berryessa who identified Allen as being at the lake that day--the son of the now deceased dentist and one of the college women.". We will use these details from the police report:The three young women who potentially saw Zodiac, You will notice that the white horizontal line above passes through the identical features on both images of Lake Berryessa, indicating that Dr Rayfield & Son and the three girls were visiting the near identical location that day, adding weight to the idea, that the suspicious character observed by both had good reason to be in that area. The Zodiacs next known attack occurred at Lake Berryessa, north of Napa, California. 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