Its left to speculation but to many the voice sounds like a middle aged man with a gravelly voice. He parked by the cemetery to ask permission from Ron Logan to search his land. It does make reading and replying to messages so much easier! Could it be faked or forged? Nigga please. This seems to be a pretty huge oversight that was never even commented on by Leaker. Jesus Christ, this case is sad! We judge that false. Delphi Community High School Classes of 1870 - 2023. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. I think the one last piece of evidence was that they were trying to crack the friends alibi. Thats nonsense. Oh! We are not even sure where or when he lost them. Sorry about thatI wish the comments were easier to read and posts easier to find. 24/7 Emergency Service (manned) Auto Fill or Call in- Same low price. The barn theory: Has to do with the Mears barn across the street from Ron Logans house. Yeah, I just dont believe that Garrett Kirts was in on this, sorry. Im certain the girls kept that secret. Perhaps the most amazing information of all is that this was a gun crime! According to Leaker, Mr. X was involved in the search party. Abby Williams, 13, and 14 year old Libby German were killed on a . Therefore it is disconcerting to see constant accusations of me making up rumors or theories about this crime out of whole cloth. If you hate me so much, why do you read? Problem is its not free. Or sometimes people email me. Journalists have lost their careers over doing that, and good luck getting hired again afterwards. "He asked her about what was wrong with her car. Venters took Roe's advice and prepared the memorandum. They are currently serving time. Leaker also said that there were religious aspects to the murders. Leaker says that Mr. X had an alibi, a friend of his. Ok he left it in his car? I could not agree with you more. There is no indication either BG, or Watkins killer, etc was into staging deaths as suicides so that may be what this poor girl did. The girls bodies were violated with sticks and branches. If they can place him at the CPS building, they can make an arrest. He could be anywhere including this department store. One more thing. I hate to think that but it happens so frequently these days. They were in Lafayette that week. So many do end up deleted. This is apparently poor Abby screaming. To me this implies that she tried to run. He could always say that he lost his key while he was searching for the girls. J., this conversation probably needs to be taken over to the private group. I still have the same POIS since Dec 2017. She said she had been mad at me for spreading this rumor but she had recently been able to confirm its truth via a detective in another area of LE who had seen crime scene photos. 20-100# cylinders filled while you wait. They beat their fists on the table endlessly that only verified information, not rumors, must be discussed. Unless youre someone to whom hate is as valuable as oxygen. How bout one more one more thing, just to try your patience? Family owned for 3 generations. He controlled them with the gun. Abby may well have been knocked out cold by this blow. I dont know their voices and just assumed it was Stroup. In brand new information, apparently one of the trail cams at the south end of the bridge where the abduction took place had been disabled. How many homicidal maniacs are out there? Tumblr. Oh88 or punks with candles painting their fingernails black. BG could literally be anyone. LE is also looking for blood-soaked clothing. Dolls scattered around the scene. On February 14th, shortly after Noon, their bodies were discovered by searchers less than a quarter mile from the Monon High Bridge in which was their last known location based on a photo posted to Snapchat at 2:07pm. We have been saying all along that the killer must have known the girls were going to be there that day, and he came quite amply prepared to commit this specific crime. Thats a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and Im an ethical journalist. Jennifer Venters, Plaintiff-appellant, v. City of Delphi and Larry Ives, Defendants-appellees, 123 F.3d 956 (7th Cir. The girls were reported missing by family members on February 13th 2017, at approximately 5:30pm after a search failed to locate the girls. Although it was dusk, it would seem to be hard to miss the girls right below where his truck was parked. If LE had the key to his truck wouldnt it have been obvious to LE to see if the key matched the truck they had towed from the cemetary the day the bodies were discovered? The last two comments are closer to the beginning of the thread. This friend says he saw Mr. X elsewhere in town around the time of the murders. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Im a professional journalist. In fact, we were ripped up pretty severely for promoting that theory. I know the name of the detective who was doing that, too. Indiana absolutely had DNA swab laws in 2017. Indeed, we theorized this in the early days after the crime. It is the opinion of LE that the killer parked at the CPS building while he committed his crimes. Drug trafficking, human trafficking, sex crimes, you name it. People have asked them previously, and they said, We dont care about him (Lindsay). The blood spray from such an attack would be serious. So I have to cover my tracks pretty well here because I dont want to reveal my sources. I dont know but I see both the videos that were on this page are no longer there, and I think the one where he took the phone call from the guy who was going to turn himself in (allegedly) was on WKAT, their new channel. For one, there was a small change in his story. The only murder stories that are somewhat comfortable to read have been so cleaned up that theyre almost not worth reading. This rumor is now judged false. We have caught Hell and high water for this one, however, this rumor has some staying power. Police have stated that this suspect has likely killed before and will likely kill again. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a99688251296d54bb90f8da91ef0d11e" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. He said that the only reason he hasnt killed by now is because hes afraid. If you hate me that much, just go away. Just as there are men and real men, so there are writers and real writers. We reported in a previous post that the trip was not a last minute decision, and instead, adults were discussing it in local bars on Friday night. Simple. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. All thats needed is probably a search of Mr Xs internet history and I bet youll have all the answers youll ever need. Thats all Im going to say about that. ("One of the old time darkies" was a bizarre (and utterly offensive) term of approval.) I could barely have existed without them! After 4 years, you would think the problem was they just didnt have clear DNA linkage because Indiana didnt have DNA swab laws for felony arrests in 2017 until the Supreme Court ruled taking DNA swabs for FELONY arrests is constitutional because its the same as taking fingerprints. Video were recorded by BG as he committed this crime. With no clear features and a very common midwestern look, BG looks like pretty much every man with hair that ranges from dark brown to red to dark blondeand without blue eyes. Police have received over 30,000 tips. We now feel that this is false. I dont think I should allow it on here. Did her suspicions go too far? DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. I have a BA in Journalism. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. He described a branch plunged into the body of one of the girls. However, spent cartridges were found by LE, who says they were fired by BG. Maybe the guy was acting oddly because he is odd, which isnt a crime, or maybe he was wondering why she and her children were suspiciously watching him? They also were into ritualswarlocks, etc. I feel almost like LE is just waiting for people to forget about this case and one day its going to become very clear that theyve just been covering for B. I mean Mr.X. On his Facebook he made a comment like that videos all on Greeno when people asked what it was about., QuarterMileOfNasty A knife with no DNA? And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. We writers love to write and once we get started, we just cant quit, like any other addiction to dope, gambling, sex, porn, or whatever. Once again, we see forward planning for this crime. I recently read a post in which a woman saw a man at a department store who seemed as though he could be BG. -- Police in Delphi, Indiana are looking into a possible new development in the cold-case murder of two teenage girls. Instead, we believe that they were handcuffed. Theyre dark as Hell and theyre at the far end of the psychopathic spectrum. Keep in mind that these document(s) went through different people before the came to me. Ill vouch for that one. Were the people into witches men or women? And the owners acted very strange when we asked if the barn had been used in the crime. In cases like these, possible suspects who seem like good possibilities for being the culprit are often run through the ringer, only to be dismissed. People on various media have suspected everyone of being the killer from the girls family to their own family to a known sex offender to a guy they once worked with to a guy walking around a Walmart hundreds of miles from Delphi. I figured he was friends with Tobe. So, Greeno has closed his youtube account. Itll be fun., Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. It is most likely 5-7 days old. On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, detectives with the Delphi Double Homicide Task Force took Richard Allen, 50, from Delphi Indiana into custody at the Indiana State Police Lafayette Post for the . Theres a guy in the Bay Area who killed little girls over a period of 10-15 years. Anything published in the early post that has not changed will not be republished here. This man added that Abby had a branch plunged into her body just below her solar plexus in her chest. We have assumed that from the very start of this case. Pure effervescent enrichment. Either he has superhuman powers or it didnt happen. Thats really terrible. Of course thats not enough for a conviction but it helps to solidify suspicions in LEs and in ours, frankly. However, Mr. Xs truck is orange. He was born on October 28, 1960, in Terre Haute to Donald Lee and Chleada Frances (Hoopingarner) Pearson. They made it (DelphiCaseDiscussion) private membership because they say DelphiMurders is not moderated and theres too much nonsense being posted. Mr. Xs roommate says BGs voice is close to Mr. Xs. Hes very good at what he does. If the truck can be linked to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible. There is more shocking information that was touched on earlier. DanielNations was arrested Monday after police in Colorado Springs say the car he and his wife were driving matched one belonging to a man who threatened several hikers with a hatchet. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. The catfish appears to have been the killer himself. Time has eroded the evidence (witnesses, crime scene, etc.) They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. We dont know. So every time you hear people bashing the Hell out of this site for something we printed, keep in mind that that was just some rumor we heard and printed. An arrest has been made in the Delphi double homicide case! I dont see how anyone could believe that crazy story. 1997) case opinion from the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit . Very sad. Im not quite sure. On July 17th, police released a sketch of the suspect stating they are confident it accurately depicts the killer of Abby and Libby. That counts as sexual tableau. But I wonder how certainly they can conclude the wound was self inflicted vs staged in a body so decomposed it was virtually unidentifiable. Here is the first onesomeone make sense of this, please. There is a rumor that Mr. X looked through his binoculars, spotted a deer, and then looked down and saw the girls. Utah Highway Patrol trooper Dennis "Dee" Lund was fatally shot June 16, 1993, as he tried to stop the Indiana youth and a friend as the duo sped cross-country to avoid trouble in their . The author whoever she/he may be did excellent research. All attempts to find the killers IP addresses or texts or photos of the catfish on Snapchat have come up empty for whatever reason. What were the mans telling suspicions that alerted her? We are supposed to go to jail instead of revealing our sources, and some of us have. Also I have some messages from a woman who knew Mr. X and his wife and says BGs voice is a dead ringer for Mr. X. Just a matter of having some time to do so. Therefore the rumor that BG sent photos of the crime to Abbys phone seems to be true. Daniel Nations' last known address was in Martinsville, Indiana, which is about 100 miles from Delphi. Maybe, but the professional would not do something like that. Weve just passed the one year mark of the homicides of Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi Indiana. So it must not be true then. They also need to somehow connect Mr. X to the catfish on Snapchat in some way or other. It is not known which assault was fatal. Evening search: Police and FBI agents served a search warrant at this home in the 11000 block of Bicycle Bridge Road outside Delphi, Indiana, in connection to the murders of two teens. Cops think he did it, they just dont have enough on him. Hi J! Now that I contacted you, I know its all garbage. Maybe because I use a pc as opposed to a phone or tablet? I hate that word, favorite of scientistic skeptards. She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. It just didnt feel right.. And when you look through the videos on Greenos personal YT page you find a video of him showing how to manipulate recorded voices to sound different. I dont know if this would help otherswhen I read comments I press the Little comment alert bell in the upper right hand corner. A previous report said that the killer took photos or video of the crime and sent it to Abbys phone after the murders. I dont think I should allow it on here. We had a private pay-only group where we discussed him, but that was it. It sounds like this guy is lying which is aawful! He posted a teaser for it days ago. Search and rescue teams, working with forensic K9s, found the rest of her remains several hundred yards away. Can only guess at this point. Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at 844-459-5786 Indiana State Police at 800-382-7537 The Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413 Email Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com I can only hope that justice is served for Abby and Libby and that their families are one day able to find peace. Photo by: FBI/Florida Sex Offender Registry, El Paso County Sheriff's Department, Texas, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar. They can place his phone there but not him or his vehicle. So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? The skull turned up first, I think (thats when they initially said they considered it a suspicious death and could be foul play) then they found a few more bones out searching and rescinded any notion of suspicious death (much less the possibility of foul play). We now judge this as rumor as false. Keep in mind that a lot of people claim they cant see a damned thing in these photos, including the victims bodies, or that they were looking at pixels and graphics software playing games with us. I feel for the guy. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. Its not so much the sign of a lousy writer as the sign of a writer, as in a born writer, a real writer. "Devastated," said Dan McCain, long-time community organizer in Delphi, at word from police that they were treating the deaths of the two Delphi Community Middle School students as a double. Their trying 2 get as many hits they can off the internet. Another odd thing that is that Mr. Xs phone was pinging the CPS building for a few hours around the time of the murders. Matches up, get it? I dont see any reference to the date on the video. King World Productions Inc. 2023 Inside Edition Inc. and CBS interactive Inc., Paramount companies. Both of those behaviors seem pretty over the top, even for such a gruesome crime. Perhaps they are posed in a milder, less than obvious one. There are some photo overlays that show an almost perfect match between Mr. X and BG, but I cannot post them here. Thats all it ever was. Photo by: El Paso County Sheriff's Department, Texas. This seems to be correct. Select the best result to find their address, phone number, relatives, and public records. Perhaps he lost them during the homicide if he committed it. Its an opinion as much as any of us have. As you can see, Abbys hand is close to a certain part of Libbys body. All these things you talk about go right along with them. and to provide him and City Council President Carolyn Pearson with copies. A quote I like: Mr. X was back searching in the area on Logans land at 12:30 PM February 14. Leaker says the second sketch is a sketch of the catfish photo that the killer used to lure Libby on Snapchat where she was catfished. On the other hand there is a new rumor that a gut knife was left at the scene. Stepson X is Mrs. X's child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. According to Leaker, LE feels that Libby may have posted on Snapchat that she was going to the bridge that day. Not only can it result in a defamation suit but it just might ruin someones life, not to mention impede the investigation. I think Greeno would be in trouble with the law for false reporting, obstruction, who knows what. After I do that, I will discuss rumors that have more credibility. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. We only know that it was discharged. I would apologize to him for falsely accusing him behind closed doors, but he threatened to murder me many times, so Ill pass on that. Is this BG? Sad story. The idea that this guy woke up at age 51 and decided to commit a masterful double murder stretches credulity. Thats like talking about someone within the confines of a private home. That voice has the same inflection as Greeno.. it just sounds like the voice is coming out of a tin can., Ddcups Tipped off . Who is Jennifer? However, it is suspicious to say the very least. Tragedy to take ones own life. He gave us a lot of new information, much of which may be correct. Its true we were fast and loose with some of those rumors, reporting them as truth, and that is unfortunate. One of Libbys friends had seen a photo of the catfish, and her description of it is what the second sketch is based on. Your email address will not be published. Its often just one homicide, but cops think he did it. Next you hear a loud scream followed by a loud thump. He was alone, walking with his hands in his pockets (as BG did on the bridge), he was looking at guns and fishing equipment (BG is suspected of having a gun), he kept looking at her suspiciously. In addition, he seemed to be taunting LE and viewers in these videos. There have been whispers on reddit that BG rented a vehicle that day. And in 2009 they swabbed my mouth for DNA for the FBI database. Money? I find this very interesting! Unfortunately, just after being admitted membership I saw bubbafudpucker was a member. I would like to officially thank Cory Ahlm and Ryan Vanslooten, whoever the Hell they are, assuming they even exist in the first place, two of my very best friends going so far back I cant even remember when we first met. I said this previously and will say it again: I truly wish someone with some guts and a large bank account would hire a real Private Investigator (like a Bo Dietl) that could come in and not only have this case solved in about a month, but literally blow the lid off of the shitstorm that is terrorizing Delphi/Carroll County. This is so ridiculous. I concur that one may be possible, but the rest I cant see at all. In which case, both of the guardians would be wrong. This is no ordinary garage: it's a rabbit hole of true crime, with a generous supply of alcohol and banter to li I get those about this stupid case all the time. Mr X. is thick as thieves with the McBrothers and the Carroll County Sheriff I believe L&As tragic murders are connected to a much more sinister set of crimes. Oh, shoot, I wonder if non-members are able to read in the new sub-reddit? (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. This seems credible to me although some say that LE just made this up as a ruse. My mother had a friend who hiked into the woods and committed suicide. Presumably one of the wounds to the girl(s) was via this sort of a knife. So terrible. This is one Hell of a dark crime. Comment Page 5 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Delphi Homicide Abby Williams Libby German Indiana serial killer, http://www.kktv.com/content/news/BREAKING-Human-remains-found-in-Teller-County-476433893.html, Comment Page 2 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby Closed for comments, Comment Page 3 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 4 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 6 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby. Except you never get the peak high, and theres no post-high crash. Someone said that Stroup seemed to distance himself from this one making the remark on Facebook This vid is all on Greeno (to that effect). They also found a backpack, cell phone, Lamberts ID, and a pistol. Nothing but blurs. There have been some strange twist lately on youtube. This rumor was affirmed by Leaker. . With any Organized Crime situation, your enemies (known and unknown) often come after your loved ones to get you to capitulate. But where do we draw the line on our suspicions? Also Mr. X does have a sex crime history from age 16-26 which makes perfect sense. Turns out it was a bad rumor. B) A message sent to the family Mafia-style, with the girls as collateral damage. Open and shut. First of all, about the purpose of this website. So LE is looking for the clothing he wore that day with bloodstains seen and unseen. I dont understand the part about unseen bloodstains, but apparently when you get blood on your clothes, not all of it is visible and some can only be seen with special tools. Im just catching up so it may be stated here somewhere else. This is the official web site for the Delphi Community High School Classes of 1880 - 2014. We did briefly have contacts with a few LE sources, but they didnt tell us a lot. 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