After 1861 only a sample of crew lists and agreements and log books are held at The National Archives. [19], Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary were both used as troop transports[20] during the war. Built by John Brown & Co., Clydebank, Glasgow, Scotland. Within that context, as Sir Percy Bates, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, never tired of explaining: "The two new vessels represent the smallest and slowest ships which can fulfill these conditions and accomplish such a regular service. The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the 'Queens' in 1952. Archive British Pathe film footage of the launch can be viewed by logging on to: < British Pathe The Queen launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 >, The QUEEN ELIZABETH enters the waters of the River Clyde, The crowds at John Brown's shipyard at the launch, The QUEEN ELIZABETH is towed round to the fitting-out basin at, John Brown's shipyard, following her successful launch. Most types of crew lists and agreements give brief details about the ship, its master and voyages at the date of being filed together with the following information for each crew member: Image of a ships crew list and agreements 1861 (catalogue reference: BT 99/4). This information will help us make improvements to the website. First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). The NORMANDIE had one edge on the QUEEN MARY in being aesthetically more pleasing through her revolutionary streamlining and lack of visible deck 'clutter'. On 11th July Bates replied asking Piggot to 'think of another good number'. One major factor that limited the ship's departure date was that there were only two spring tides that year that would see the water level high enough for Queen Elizabeth to leave the Clydebank shipyard,[15] and German intelligence were aware of this fact. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. finally arrives at Hong Kong on 15th July 1971. The new ship weighed her bower anchor half an hour later and with a mean draught of 37 feet 9 inches slipped through the anti-submarine boom that stretched across the Clyde between the Gantock Rocks and the Cloch Lighthouse at 8.15am. in the late 1940s, are (left to right): Elizabeth Sayers, Margaret Morton. Queen Elizabeth's 'cherished wish' that she might someday sail in the liner was fulfilled in October 1954 when, by now Queen Mother, she embarked at the beginning of a tour to the United States and Canada. The anchors were examined and each link of her anchor chains painted. 'Standee' bunks and accommodated up to eight G.I.s. At eleven o'clock that evening Captain Townley opened his sealed orders and the Elizabeth's destination was at last known - New York. In July 1962 Sir John Brocklebank, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, said that the QUEEN ELIZABETH still had many years to go and mechanically could be kept competitive for the foreseeable future. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. After leaving Singapore the QUEEN ELIZABETH headed for Sydney. A fortnight later, on Monday 20th August 1945, the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived in Southampton for the first time - four and a half years late. On 14th June 1971 the liner reached Cape Town and on 7th July called at Singapore. Cherbourg was chosen as the French port for the new ships as it had deeper water and a larger harbour than Le Havre. Further details of available sources are described in: In 1747, following an Act of Parliament, a fund for the relief of disabled seamen was set up, using money taken from seamens wages. The Company had replaced a number of its smaller ships, but there were no large replacements for the express service at the planning stage. The fins were retractable into the hull to save fuel in smooth seas and for docking. There are a small number of log books in BT 98 and BT 99. She underwent refit work in drydock adding accommodation and armaments, and three hundred naval ratings quickly painted the hull. It was just over thirty years since she had launched the ship at Clydebank. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Throughout the 'G.I. Mildenhall Wilfred Charles. Many local archives hold the records relating to their local ports. The list was kept on board and then sent to the Register Office of Merchant Seamen, the central administration office of the Merchant Navy, on the ships return to Britain. All Digitized Passenger Lists For the RMS Queen Elizabeth Available at the GG Archives. The market could only assume 2,700,000 of the risk. Other than silt found in some inlets, there was very little evidence of the grounding. WebRMS Queen Mary: 80,774 GRT: 1936: Currently a Hotel ship 16 October 1946 (entered service) RMS Queen Elizabeth: 83,673 GRT: 314 m (1,031 ft) 1946 1972 (Destroyed by fire) Scrapped in 1974 (after sinking) 3 February 1962 (entered service) SS France (1962-1980) SS Norway (post-1980) 66,343 GRT(as built) 76,049 GRT (final size) Passengers: 850 first, 720 cabin, 744 tourist. At the end of her time at Gourock one thousand Clydebankers ('Bankies') sailed south with the ship to alleviate the acute shortage of local skilled labour at Southampton. On 28th July 1948 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, accompanied by their younger daughter Princess Margaret Rose, were received on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the flagship of Britain's merchant fleet. Engines were checked and boilers tested, but only six of the twelve boilers were considered functional for the long passage. The whole affair turned into a spectacular fiasco as the ', The QUEEN ELIZABETH's final season on the Atlantic was uneventful other than for the enthusiasm expressed by her regular passengers who wanted to sail in her just one last time. However, over the winter of 1967/68, Cunard received several serious enquiries from potential buyers. She was to be fitted with Denny-Brown stabilisers whilst in the King George V dry dock. Sir Basil Smallpiece said: "Although the QUEEN MARY's retirement at the end of 1967 had long been forecast, it had been hoped that the results of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's cruise programme last winter would confirm the viability of the Company's plan to keep her in service when the 'Q.4' [launched as the QUEEN ELIZABETH 2] comes along in 1969. Within that context, as Sir Percy Bates, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, never tired of explaining: In May 1930, Cunard began to make tentative enquiries about the possibility of dry-docking facilities at Southampton for its two new superliners. The view from the top of the shipyard crane of the. [6] The two liners were replaced with the new, more economical Queen Elizabeth 2. Alternatively, searchThe National Archives library catalogueto see what is available to consult at Kew. On 7th August 1946 the QUEEN ELIZABETH entered the King George V dry dock where her 140-ton rudder was inspected. Names and Register Tickets of Crew (Foreign Trade) (Schedule G)A list of the crew, with their Register Ticket numbers, to be filed for a foreign-going ship on sailing. For the two meals a day that were provided there were six sittings, each of forty-five minutes. Steam turbines. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. In the entrance channel to the harbour at Port Everglades a second boiler blew and the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY now had just four boilers functioning out of a possible twelve. The records held are for years ending with five (1955, 1965, and so on).https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/research-guides/research-guide-c12-merchant-navy-ship-registration-custom-house-records. You are unlikely to find records by searching for the names of ships or seamen, as the records have not been indexed in that way. These lists do not include passengers who joined ships en route. For the QUEEN ELIZABETH the war was over. Additional competition in the form of the new UNITED STATES would also be a factor from mid 1952. [19] After 1942, the two Queens were relocated to the North Atlantic for the transportation of American troops to Europe. the title of each video, exactly as I have shown it above. The UNITED STATES took the 'Blue Riband' on her maiden voyage. Day it fell to the Queens to transport back to the United States many of the hundreds of thousands of the G.I.s they had brought to Europe, and, in the case of the QUEEN MARY, to transport 25,000 American servicemen's 'War Brides' and their children to their new home country. There was still thick fog in Southampton Water and the QUEEN ELIZABETH returned to Cowes Roads to anchor overnight. In the event 600 tubes had to be changed and approval obtained from classification societies. This was the catalyst, but not the only cause, of the withdrawal of the two 'Queens'. WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. There was no call at Cherbourg; the ship was fully booked from Southampton and much work still needed to be done to make the harbour at the French port safe again. The document was signed by the master of the ship and the shipping master of the port, and the seaman would sign their name on the back. Reliable boilers would have to be chosen as there would be no opportunity for boiler cleaning in port. The railway company expressed the view that the projected dry dock could not be started for some eight to ten years and that it would take between four and five years to complete. The QUEEN ELIZABETH dominates a cricket match during. The QUEEN ELIZABETH alongside the Gare Maritime at Cherbourg, The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were regular. It is estimated that around 4050% of the wreck was still on the seabed. Two thousand men were ferried out daily to work on the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY as she lay at anchor off Hong Kong. Post War Service: Reconditioned for passenger service. For pre-1747 records, you need to look speculatively through material from other government departments or courts that may have had an interest in merchant navy affairs, such as: Use theadvanced search in Discovery, our catalogue, to search for records using the department codes above and relevant keywords such as ships, shipping, or manifest. leaves Southampton on her first ever commercial voyage. On a particularly rough crossing in April 1955, during which there were gusts of wind to 70mph and a heavy swell of up to 50 feet, nearly 100 passengers and members of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's crew were hurt. Contrary to newspaper reports, this additional oil would not enable the world's largest liner to make the round trip without refuelling, but Cunard would be able to save some money if the current price of fuel oil was cheaper in England than the United States, or vice-versa. [10] She was to be eleven feet longer and 4,000 tons greater displacement than her older sibling, Queen Mary. While waiting for the messenger, the ship was refuelled; adjustments to the compass and some final testing of equipment were also carried out before she sailed to her secret destination. The, On 8th November the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed on a 'Farewell Cruise' to Las Palmas and Gibraltar, and was back at Southampton on 15th November. Four torpedoes were fired and the U-Boat followed their course. Sir James Bisset was in command of the QUEEN ELIZABETH for many of these 'shuttle' voyages. It was Chamberlain's firm belief that the British Government should guarantee a building loan to the Cunard Company on the condition that the two companies merged into one united front against the foreign competition. The next largest category comprised business travel and if current medical opinion was correct there was a danger that modern airspeed had outstepped the capacity of man to adapt himself to its stress. Queen Elizabeth launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Undoubtedly the incomplete QUEEN ELIZABETH was the greatest dilemma facing John Brown's on the outbreak of war. War seemed very much to be a likelihood on that September day, but the King had sent a message which Queen Elizabeth incorporated into her speech. Since the Registry General of Shipping and seamen regulations covered only British seamen, details of engagement, such as length of engagement, could be different, allowing a lascar seaman to be contracted for a period longer than one voyage and sometimes for several years. This limited the turn-round at both Southampton and New York to just 36 hours which by current standards sounds very leisurely indeed! Top to bottom: the MAURETANIA, the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY. WebRMS Queen Mary: 80,774 GRT: 1936: Currently a Hotel ship 16 October 1946 (entered service) RMS Queen Elizabeth: 83,673 GRT: 314 m (1,031 ft) 1946 1972 (Destroyed by fire) Scrapped in 1974 (after sinking) 3 February 1962 (entered service) SS France (1962-1980) SS Norway (post-1980) 66,343 GRT(as built) 76,049 GRT (final size) The 5 million was released on 28th July. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. For another year, her sibling did military service, returning troops and G.I. Her brother, the Hon. In January 1931 agreement was reached with the New York Port Authority for a thousand-foot long pier at a rent of 48,000 a year. [9][10] It was announced that on 23 August 1939 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth were to visit the ship and tour the engine room and that 24 April 1940 was to be the proposed date of her maiden voyage. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank off Gourock. WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at the anchorage at the Tail of the Bank. Three years later it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would return to the Clyde in December 1965 for extensive improvements by her builders, John Brown & Company. Internally the condensers and oil cooler inlets were cleared of shells and gravel. The QUEEN ELIZABETH had also been fitted with four miles of rubber coated copper cable would around her enormous hull. Under the terms of the Cunard Insurance Act, Cunard was obliged to start work on the second ship before the Act expired in 1936. On being told that she should not leave the yacht's helm unattended, she shouted that she had gone below to boil some milk! The QUEEN MARY was berthed on the south side of Pier 90, and on the north side of Pier 88 lay the French Line's NORMANDIE. A model of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth has sat serenely for the last 15 years, gliding along on its pedestal in a PEM gallery. For instance, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out of service from 21st July to 30th July 1952 and this included six days in the King George V dry dock. Sometimes, however, other details may be found. May 11 - 16 First time more than 10,000 persons had traveled on any ship (9,880 troops, 875 crew). Two masts and two funnels. This would take at least an hour plus many miles, and this would not have allowed her to stop within Kessler's observation. The records contain details of UK merchant seamen who served on the ships. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. Cunard always refused to acknowledge the recently introduced Hales Trophy as a tangible symbol of the achievement. Cabins designed for two passengers were equipped with. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH never enjoyed the same affection that the Cunard men held for the QUEEN MARY, being described as the 'colder' of the two ships. This enabled a third anchor, the bower, to be carried allowing the anchr to fall well clear of the stem. At 11.15am the QUEEN ELIZABETH weighed anchor and was abeam the Cumbraes an hour later. Photographed on the QUEEN ELIZABETH, sometime. Agreements for Home Trade Ships (Schedule B)These agreements covered coastal and fishing ships. Though it was started it was never finished, due to the economic blizzard in the late 1920s. Honolulu was interested as were the Australians. First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). The following day, 8th October, four hundred guests of the Cunard Company boarded the QUEEN ELIZABETH for the return passage to Southampton. A form known as a Schedule C was completed by the master of every Foreign Going Ship, filed within 48 hours of the ships return to a UK port. In 1951 the 'Queens' sailed from Southampton every 15 or 17 days, but the 1952 schedules show each liner sailing everyfourteen days, enabling fifteen round voyages to be made between May and October compared with just eleven in 1951. The small vessel's skipper hoisted a flag signal: Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. Commenced her first regular Southampton-New York voyage, October 16, 1946, making the crossing in four days, 16 hours, 18 minutes. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth It was certainly the last time that the two 'Queens' ever stopped at sea in war time. She urgently needed to be drydocked to have the remains of her launch gear removed from her bottom plates which would then have to be cleaned and painted. Her master, Captain Ford, had attempted to avert the incident by ordering 'half-astern' on the starboard engines, but it was too late. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at full speed in the North Atlantic. You may find a ships Official Number from the following published sources available at The National Archives: See section 3 for more information on how to find a ships number. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. This left only Singapore and the QUEEN ELIZABETH would have to make two stops to take on fuel and water on her voyage from New York. The QUEEN ELIZABETH had a heavily raked bow. He went on deck and saw three great ships - the two 'Queens' and the ILE DE FRANCE stationary. The size of the two proposed superliners was not dictated in any way by a desire on the part of Cunard to have 'Big Ships' for their own sake. Maritime History Archive holds approximately 70% of the crew lists and agreements for 1951-1976, but the records have not yet been indexed so contact them directly for search advice. The steamer observed by Kessler had been travelling at speed. Steam locomotives delivered the steel plates, but lighter items were brought in by horse-drawn lorries. Bdmn. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth With the introduction in 1855 of a central registry, all ships were given an official number as soon as practicable. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth is the largest and most powerful vessel ever constructed for the Royal Navy. WebScenes on the main podium prior the launching, the two Princesses are notable, especially Princess Elizabeth , our future Queen! the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1947, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1965, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1972, RMS Queen Elizabeth from Victory to Valhalla. In December 1974 the decision was taken to scrap the remains of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. A Schedule D form was headed Accounts Of Voyages And Crew For Home Trade Ship. The other ships that were in Southampton that unhappy morning saluted the QUEEN ELIZABETH as she passed but received no acknowledgement to their respectful signals. REINA DEL MAR PACIFIC STEAM NAVIGATION CO. Search inBT 387for agreements and crew lists of allied foreign ships requisitioned or chartered by the British government in the Second World War. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. This was the catalyst, but not the only cause, of the withdrawal of the two, The QUEEN ELIZABETH was not successful as a cruise ship. The following morning a small coastal collier was seen in the Irish Sea wallowing along at 6 knots. Four days later she arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia, with 12,517 passengers and 864 crew. Lady Assistant Pursers were introduced on the Cunard liners after the, Second World War. Alternatively, browseBT 98/564-4758to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. Harland & Wolff found itself in a peculiar situation. Kessler always maintained that the ship was the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Check the opening hours and contact details for local archives usingfind an archive. The QUEEN MARY's post-war refit was completed in the summer of 1947 and on 1st August she joined her larger sister in the long-delayed two-ship Atlantic express ferry service for which they had both been built. A major problem to be settled concerned the insurance of the liner while she was being built, together with the future full sea risks when she was operational. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. WebThe Cunard - White Star Liner QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 - 1972 LIVERPOOL SHIPS ACCRA OF 1947 ELDER DEMPSTER LINES AUREOL ELDER DEMPSTER LINES BRITANNIC and GEORGIC CUNARD WHITE STAR CARINTHIA CUNARD LINE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN CANADIAN PACIFIC EMPRESS OF CANADA LOSS BY FIRE Within a few short minutes the plans, hopes and successes of three decades came to an end as syrens boomed out across the water, the whole poignant scene witnessed by just a few passengers braving the night wind. Some two thirds of Cunard's passengers crossed the Atlantic on holiday: hence the company's slogan, In September 1959 an announcement was made to the effect that an independent committee of three, headed by Lord Chandos, had been set up to examine the Cunard Company's proposals for replacing the ', The year 1960 proved to be another good one for Cunard. CPO. The Mercantile Marine Act of 1850 required masters to keep a ships Official Log to record events on board including: Logs were deposited after each foreign voyage, or half-yearly for home trade ships. During her construction she was more commonly known by her shipyard number, Hull 552. Speed varied between 7 and 11 knots, with the higher speed using 300 tons of oil per day. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was the culmination of Sir Percy Bates' own initiative; the fulfilment of a long-cherished dream held by many shipowners; that a weekly trans-Atlantic ferry service should be maintained by two ships rather than by three, or even four (sometimes mismatched) vessels that had previously - and expensively - been required. The purpose of the visit was to enable Queen Elizabeth to present the ship with her personal standard, to be framed and hung in the first-class restaurant. He wrote in his private diary: Towards the end of June 1936, in reply to a question in the House of Commons, the Chancellor Neville Chamberlain said: Early in July 1936 Stephen Piggot (the managing director of John Brown) wrote to Sir Percy Bates saying that Yard No.535 had been reserved for the new ship. WebThe Cunard - White Star Liner QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 - 1972 LIVERPOOL SHIPS ACCRA OF 1947 ELDER DEMPSTER LINES AUREOL ELDER DEMPSTER LINES BRITANNIC and GEORGIC CUNARD WHITE STAR CARINTHIA CUNARD LINE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN CANADIAN PACIFIC EMPRESS OF CANADA LOSS BY FIRE The QUEEN ELIZABETH approaching her berth at Pier 90 in the North River, at New York in the late 1940s. CPO. The liner is equipped with two sets of stabilizers. Captain Townley received two telegrams on his arrival, one from his wife congratulating him, and the other from Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth thanking him for the vessel's safe delivery. The speed required for the 112-hour passage on the various tracks used across the Atlantic according to the season would be between 27.61 and 28.94 knots. But the QUEEN ELIZABETH made only 38 crossings and yet carried 66,000 passengers, giving a average of 1,752. The QUEEN ELIZABETH departing from the river of her birth, and her. The 1971 film version starring Connery used the P&O liner SSCanberra for the sequence. I have agreed in principle." This was designed so that the Government would assume responsibility of the risk of the ship's insurance value over and above the amount which the market could absorb. The safety of the troops during these solo high-speed dashes across the Atlantic was not considered to be paramount in the minds of those at the top. "The voyage, while short, will be extremely difficult for all". On 8th September 1951 the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on her 100th round voyage to New York since she entered passenger service in October 1946. But first the ship had to be moved from Port Everglades to Hong Kong. This 'Glee Party', as it was known, then toured the vessel deck by deck. [9], In 1955, during an annual overhaul at Southampton, England, Queen Elizabeth was fitted with underwater fin stabilisers to smooth the ride in rough seas. Barry Claud Barrington. CPO. However, to stop the QUEEN ELIZABETH would take considerable time. All fields were usually completed. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving the fitting-out berth at John Brown's. Over a two-hour period engine revolutions were increased from 100 (17 knots) to 154 (26 knots). All the Cunard records from that period have apparently been lost. The 'Cassandra' column in the 'Daily Mirror' on 29th November 1961 was uncharacteristically enthusiastic about the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The troops would board the, The safety of the troops during these solo high-speed dashes across the Atlantic was not considered to be paramount in the minds of those at the top. Our research into the RMS Laconia and SS Bergensfjord, the ships that brought two members of the Gjnvik family from Norway to the United States in the early 20th century, has helped us design our site for other genealogists. These earlier records were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by name of ship (see the respective sections below for advice on finding earlier records). Following his retirement, Sir James was in great demand as a lecturer and one day was telling some schoolchildren of the days when 2,000 lbs of bacon and 32,000 eggs were cooked for breakfast every day. The forms had to be filed within 30 days of the end of June or December. shipyard, bound for the Tail of the Bank off Greenock. wartime home port, for the very last time on 12th March 1966. [6] She was moved to Port Everglades, Florida, and converted to a tourist attraction, which opened in February 1969. Built at the famed John Brown Shipyard in Clydebank, Queen Elizabeth was the largest passenger ship ever constructed, a title she held from her launch until 1996 when finally eclipsed On August Bank Holiday, 1950, a yacht cruised across the fairway in the track of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The BREMEN's triumphant return to Hamburg after. GGA Image ID # 1d3753c0c2, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Stateroom. However, U.S. legislators had another surprise up their sleeve. Questions were soon asked in Parliament as to what possible use the two Cunard leviathans could be in wartime. May 11 - 16 First time more than 10,000 persons had traveled on any ship (9,880 troops, 875 crew). The following morning a small coastal collier was seen in the Irish Sea wallowing along at 6 knots. It was decided to steam her all the way and a Chinese crew was flownto Florida, along with workers from Mr Tung's own shipyard. Shuttle, there were six sittings for each of two meals. 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